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The new police, which is basically intended for the field service and uniformed, not only provides the general security service, but also for the maintenance of order, calm and cleanliness, for the regulation of touch, for the outer sanctuary of Sundays and holidays, the singing transport system and finally ensure that the principles of business sports are observed. $2,535.00 Compare ERFURT 1918 MILITARY - D13019 ad[6]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/Cash2.jpg'; Used by Police forces guarding warehouses operated by the Heerszeugment. Lugers and P38 Markings MarshalZhukov 4.55K subscribers Subscribe 238 Share Save 122K views 13 years ago This video looks at the different markings that can be found on the Luger and P38. 33. or Leder Zuweisungs Amt (Leather Allocation Office) over a Prussian Eagle over J. Berlin. Army, Navy, Police, The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Additionally, since the subject holster body attached cleaning rod, cut-back from the original, approximately 230 m/m length to 180 m/m length (or 210 m/m total with the added 30 m/m section) leather pouch/sleeve is original to the holster body, as attested by the original stitching. ad[0]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/germanmilitaria.jpg'; Thanks, Dwight, for setting the record straight about these blank toggles. This is even if the cleaning rod got past the upper, definitely added brass stud. Even though the unidentified holster has been modified to fit a P.08, it is suggested by collectors that the Railway Protection Police mostly used non-Luger pistols. If it is made after 1918it is a reproduction. Buy GERMAN LUGER P08 POLICE MAGAZINE WITH DOVE MARKING EARLY POLICE VERY RARE: GunBroker is the largest seller of WW1 & WW2 Collectibles Collectibles & Militaria All: 961041063 . This example has all matching serial numbers. 1908/13 five-digit s/n commercial-military-police Luger. information about where such materiel have been (e.g., which battles in Luger wooden box cleaning kit. Most of them are out of date: on the other hand, so many regulations have been added recently that it would be difficult for the novice to find out the right thing. Pistols and Holsters. The magazine has a non matching serial number. We've been wringing out the SFAR for several weeks and, with the first 500 rounds in the rearview, decided to go for some quiet time. Diese Frwgungen mssen die Grundlage fr die Uusbildung des Polizeibeamten bilden. The WaA107 stamp is not mentioned or listed in Luger Holsters and Accessories, 1992 by E. Bender and not much is known of the WaA107 army inspection stamp as it has been found on only four holsters to date, listed below, and a 1930s Mndungsschoner or muzzle protector: Pictured is another variation 1 muzzle protector in the collection stamped 2866 with an additional, unidentified police marking that has been partially obscured and covered with X marks and a small, unidentified police inspection stamp. The Fraktur typefaces were particularly heavily used during the rise of Nazism, when they were initially represented as true German script. Geit dem Frscheinen der ersten Uuslage im Febraur d. Zs. All P-08 Military Lugers. It was initially issued to the Imperial German Army during WW1, was reworked by the police, and was issued to the Nazi police force during WW2. (motor transport seciont), Sonderwagenstaffel der Kraftfahrabteilung (armored vehicle squadron), Polizei-Reitschule (police equestrian school), Assigned to for WWII , Hitler ordered the production of Lugers. by Poot 06 May 2016, 17:38, Post It is identical to the 4mm conversion unit part that retains the barrel and may be one and the same. Edward Tinker - Co-Author of Police Lugers & Simson Lugers - Veteran Bring Backs Vol 1-4. The following tables list the base forms for police unit marks found in Buy 9MM Rare 9X19 Luger PTP/s Polizei German Police Surplus Ammo 50 Rounds: GunBroker is the largest seller of Pistol Ammunition Ammunition All: 966676154 . Lugers! (Bavarian) State Police. This was removed and the hilt was shortened accordingly. I would guess that Simson was doing a lot of military sales in 1926, and since it was a commercial venture, DWM stepped in. I saw a police luger today marked of the grip strap with L. St.116. 05-24-2021 12:04 AM by Neil Young. is the only police instruction manual to mention the muzzle protector and its intended use with the cleaning rod and the 4mm sub caliber barrel insert. Additionally, hand written in pencil on the wooden cover is Fehrenbach, which is an area in Germany. It has a 100mm (4") barrel, is modified as a police issue with a sear and magazine safety, plus it has a police unit identification markings. Take care and thanks for the quick response. Based on the ratio proportion of the three rounds next to the muzzle protector, indicates that the pictured muzzle protector is the smaller or shorter length spring-loaded variation 1 example, not the variation 2 longer length, not spring-loaded, 4mm; excellent bore, 5'' barrel insert for Luger pistols chambered in .30 Luger (7.65mm Parabellum), two known examples of a muzzle protector used by the Wehrmacht or German army. S.Br.I.365 - Schutzpolizei of Breslau, first precinct, item 365, LS.Al.13 - item 13 of the Landjaegerei school in Allenstein, K.B.526 - item 526 of the Kriminalpolizei of Berlin. You might remember that I was looking for the destination of 2,760 Luger pistols; having 98mm - 7.65mm barrels that came from Berlin to Oberndorf. The holster, shown with pistol, is unusual as it was made without a loading tool pouch under the cover flap and the cover flap lacks a keeper for the holster body attached closing strap. Polizei-Verwaltung Halle A/S.=Police Administration Halle A/S. FN Browning M1922 7.65 mm pistol, stamped, interestingly. Faint illegible ink stamp inside the flap (Zeitz?). Luger DWM 1906 Navy, 9mm, 2nd issue. German Police Lugers and their markings 1918-1958 by Edward B. Tinker and Dwight Gruber; 2012 Bayern (Bavarian Police Defense Force), Identification of individual units or independent centuria within an that the Schutzpolizei had a military character. This was forbidden by the Treaty of Army, Navy, Police. Landjgerei Wiesbaden or the Prussian rural constabulary, Wiesbaden district. The is a 9mm, all matching police luger. The instruction manual is pictured and other interesting details are described in TBLAP, VIII, Chapter 19, Page 1297, Fig. they are found. The S.E.I. The Treaty of Versailles (through the IMKK) restricted the size of Weimar The left side of the slide has a Crown/N insp proof. Several Weimar Era Police pictures that show the box or rectangular shape belt buckles have been identified, yet veryfew examples of a Police Officer or group wearing a FREISTAAT slides open to reveal five compartments containing: a folded, felt-like material cleaning rag. 03-16-2021 11:59 AM by mrerick. This is even if the cleaning rod got past the upper, definitely added brass stud. It is the Eagle/Mg10 stamping that requires explanation. The only marking is the Akah company logo on the back side, between the belt loops. This set of two is consecutively numbered. Note the late 1920s and early 1930s Prussian state police brown holsters are Landjgerie and black holsters are Schutzpolizei. As always, I'm not responsible for any inaccuracies in the data, just for Rock Island Auctions has over 100 Lugers at their upcoming Premier Auction in May including carbines and artillery models and rare pistols meant for Persian, American, and Russian markets. There are several markings on the holster. not the case with the subject bayonet with original Weimar era matching accountability numbers. Thus, unit marks give one some history about the items on which Army, Navy, Police. There are at least two examples, as of this writing of a cut-back artillery Luger holster, where there is no doubt that a multiple conversion was done for, and specifically assigned to, and marked by the German Police. 3 Arming Weimar Germany, including Weimar Police Lugers, the Sear Safety, the Magazine Safety, profiles of Weimar Police Lugers, Police holsters, Police Magazines and Police tools & miscellaneous. Luger Magazine Marks Extruded steel body, manufactured by Haenel (WaffenAmt codes 122, FXO, Eagle 37). Sonderwagen-Staffel, gun 5, V. Prussian Police (Schutzpolizei), 1932. $4,495.00 $4,045.00 Compare This particular Police bayonet has been described not as Dress bayonet because it has an issue number on both the bayonet and the scabbard and as such its not a dress bayonet, but a duty bayonet and that they wore these on Patrol. Collectors tend to err toward a variation. Additionally, by restricting the insertion of the cleaning rod end, with affixed Reinigungsgdocht[6] or cleaning wick flush to the chamber face, prevents it from becoming detached, which could happen with a longer cleaning rod extending beyond the barrel/receiver chamber face. Nickle plated (1900-1908) or tin plated (1908-1945). German Police Unit Marks, 1920-1937. These bayonets also originally had a Prussian Eagle adorned clam shell device under the grip. 4. Spain controlled two small mountainous sections of Northern Morocco that were separated by a bay. Note: Black scabbard & frog is city. Other than the most notable features of the cut-back artillery holsters is the toe plug and the cleaning rod sleeve of these former artillery Luger holsters, none are the same, as there are other changes, such as method of carry, where Sturgess in TBLAP suggests, that with the lack of belt loops they were carried over the shoulder, somehow utilizing the rear attached leather stock block, although some examples have been modified to a single loop belt carry by rotating the Come join the discussion about the history, technology and extraordinary background associated with these design masterpieces. Prussian Eagle adorned clam shell device under the grip. Police Lugers is a work of research by Dwight Gruber and Edward Tinker that has taken innumerable hours over five years to tell the tale of the history and evolution of the police in Germany, specifically about their usage of the German P08 (Luger pistol). It was subject to the command of the local Reichswehr Mfg Part Number. another cut-back Artillery to Police holster, An examination of the P. Braunleder Cln cleaning rod pouch/sleeve brass stud shows a completely different shape of style and size, of the two different lower and upper brass stud shapes of the subject cut-back Artillery to Police holster. BACKGROUND: During the Weimar era, (circa 1919-1933) the largest of the independent German police forces was the Preuen Schutzpolizei, (Prussian Protection Police) in the newly established FREISTAAT PREUEN, (Free State/Republic of Prussia), within the Weimar Republic. 3. eBay Auction, 1933 Paul Goldner Halle a. S. holster, Some of the Police guns are reported with DWM toggles; these do not appear in any recognizable pattern. $500. One of GT's luger mounts arrived a couple of days ago. The front of the frame is correctly marked "GERMANY" over the full serial number, indicating export outside of Europe. One of just 1,000 made, it includes Cyrillic safety markings and crossed Mosin Nagant rifle engravings (Photos: RIA). Chapter 4 3rd Reich Police Lugers Chapter 5 DDR Deutsche Volkspolizei (People's Police) Lugers a complete catalog of Police Luger Markings The book has . Example 1. Abtlg. If it is made after 1918it is a reproduction. 1920-1933: DWM Lugers. of "P". There was an identical Zeitz marked holster offered for $695 on the web site of a major Luger retailer, however, stating in the description, specifically, that the holster is a WW2 police issue: ">WW2 police issue. Post by Igorak89 09 May 2016, 18:58, Post 19-130 pictures a cut-back LP.08 holster with a text caption, specifically and unequivocally, stating that the holster cleaning rod sleeve was modified by addition of a wider top section and second stud to accommodate the long Police cleaning rod with soldered on travel stop i.e., if a police cleaning rod with brass stopper wont fit the original cleaning rod sleeve, what difference would it make, dimensionally, to extend the length and not the diameter of the holster body leather cleaning rod sleeve? It is interesting that the well-known Luger dealer that sold the Sturgess cut-back LP.08 holster had to be aware of the cleaning rod issue as the text description, while generally describes the changes to the holster cleaning rod pouch, tactfully avoids the obvious fact that a police cleaning rod with a brass stopper will not fit. The issue date of this unknown maker Police pistole cleaning kit is post 1945, as after World War II as Wrttemberg was in the newly-founded States of Wrttemberg-Baden and Wrttemberg-Hohenzollern. It is also pictured as part of a police grouping consisting a period 1928 dated Police manual titled: 1928 Nr.7,1 Vorschrift fr die Waffenausbildung der Shutzpolizei or 1928 Nr.7,1 Regulations for the weapons training of the Police and an excellent condition example of the earliest new manufacture, pre-1925 first pattern, Weimar era Police Luger holster along with a 1929 Police Luger, rear gripstrap marked L.W.58 (Landjgerei Wiesbaden, weapon number 58) with original, unmodified magazine and sear safety and an extremely rare circa 1930s Prussian State Schutzpolizei Police Nickel Silver or Maillechort belt buckle marked FREISTAAT PREUSSEN or Free State of Prussia. Sticky: Book Review History Writ in Steel: German Police Markings. Potsdam = Oak*, in June 1921. Below is the translated Introduction section of Volume I. Mit der am 6 Ottober 1920 durchgefhrten Umbildung der Polizei hat die sachloche Zustndigfeit der neuen Polizei eine erhebliche Frweiterung ersahren. Heinrich Krieghoff - Suhl, Germany At least six pre-production Lugers are known to exist. is described in great detail on page 25, Figure 18, see page 137 of Eugene Bender's "Luger Holsters & Accessories" for a similarly marked holster, RIA 2013 Paul Goldner RBD Halle holster, sold for $3133, Poulin 2015 Auction, Bahnschutz holster, front view only, eBay Auction, 1933 Paul Goldner Halle a. S. holster, RIA 2018, Bahnschutz RBD Halle S holster offering, Luger Holsters & Their Accs., P137 Bahnschutz holster, M. Morris, This association is not supported by any distinguishing markings different from any other, later style, purportedly Magdeburg Depot rework Mg10 Stick Wing eagle stamps have been identified on the rear frame of P08 Lugers, Weimar eagle style E/Mg10 stampings of the 41 dated WwMg/41 and E/Mg10 P08 holsters, a stand-alone E/Mg10 Nazi Swastika stamping on a 1933 dated Robert Larsen Weimar era Police holster, two 1933 Robert Larsen Police holsters with and without the E/Mg10 eagle, an eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police inspection stamp, a unique eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police B inspection stamp, Only two are identified in publications and only partial pictures, made of impregnated pressed paper and is pictured in TPLAP, V3, page 1245 Fig. Weimar Police photos of what looks to be all NCO personnel with ordinary belt buckles. 19-105, being offered by a noted dealer for an equally extremely rare four-digit price, Possibly post-WW2 East Germany DDR Police holster. Original stitching intact. (BSP) (Railway Protection Police) as identified by ink stampings located on the inside cover flap being BAHN SCHUTZ and RBD/Rbd (ReichsBahnDirektionen) ESSEN (RUHR). 4 days Left WW2 ERA GERMAN POLICE LUGER HOLSTER RIG $150 . German firearms are loaded with a variety of markings and stamps. This is particularly believable as this holster was not for a primary combat activity. This association is not supported by any distinguishing markings different from any other Landjgerei marked Police holsters. 1014 stamping is believed to be for Schutzpolizei Erfurt, however, the I. of S.E.I. The original brown leather holster was probably dyed/swabbed black, at this time, to conform to regulations. The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols book publications picture and describe cut-back artillery Luger holsters as specifically modified for police Luger carry, there are no Luger book published, period pictures of German Police with a cut-back artillery Luger holster, nor with any standard, non-police P.08 type Luger holster. K.W.K. Einwohnerwehr had a membership of hundreds of thousands and was As an example, a major Luger dealer, who occasionally offers There are many possible combinations of edge of the barrel sight band/block. Igorak89 Member Posts: 35 Joined: 03 Oct 2013, 10:01 Location: Serbia Re: Luger markings identification - help var links=new Array() The metal finish is in very good condition. 1920-1933: DWM Lugers. Pictured is an (officers) Upper Silesian "Landespolizei" buckle. The kit is decidedly different in construction and contents from the official Reinigungsgert 34 & R.G.34 fr Kal. (May indicate manufacture or rework.) -techn. He should work on the internal corsage, promote public security, order and tranquility and, above all, give every citizen the opportunity to fulfill his moral duty to exercise his intellectual and physical strength to the full. Approximately 3,000 produced. The holster was obtained with a cleaning rod, marked on a milled flat section of the shaft Sunburst S (1932-36), specifically made to be used with police Lugers. 1/11/23 - This is an original WW2 era production Luger magazine. influence of its police during the violence and disorder of the Weimar Chapter 1 Making Modern Germany Chapter 2 Policing Germany, including Police Unit Marks Additionally, this holster was used extensively as evidenced by its less than pristine condition, possibly being carried in the late days of the war in the defense of Berlin. The actual marking is likely WaAJt18. Made in Germany and completely lead free. There is no doubt as to what variation of Mndungsschoner or muzzle protector was used in conjunction with the new 1920s police cleaning rod with brass stopper with, at least, one Weimar era police station as evidenced in Weimar Lugers,1993 page 183, figure 47c by J. I 1924 titled Verkehrsposten der Schutzpolizei or Traffic posts of the security police. which clearly shows an early Weimar era police officer with a rare belt loop variation of a cut-back artillery holster with closed toe, full cover flap with an up-strap and brass stud closure. collar slot aligned and properly threaded, leaving a proper space allowing the locking the two-piece assembly in place. [5] The S. M. 1074 markings are crossed-out with an X punch and re-stamped, positioned perpendicular at the forward gripstrap toe with an added Ostsee property number O.1057. These numbers were accountability numbers and were assigned to the policeman that carried the bayonet, as it remained the property of the issuing city. arms of this police force were a source of comflict with the IMKK, who ----------------------------------------------------------- page 2 ----------------------------------------------------------. It is very tiny. Thanks for the help. Pictured together for comparison are a Police cleaning rod with a brass stopper and a navy cleaning rod. The two-piece assembly can also be He should work on the internal corsage, promote public security, order and tranquility and, above all, give every citizen the opportunity to fulfill his moral duty to exercise his intellectual and physical strength to the full. by Poot 08 May 2016, 08:12, Post These cut-back, modified/converted artillery LP.08 holsters are discussed in Weimar Lugers by J. The police officer is therefore faced with the varied expenses. Polizeiwehr Barrel proof, some 1920 Police and Double Dated Lugers. Brown would be rural. This would account for the Luftwaffe acceptance stamp. view 2 and view 3. The lower underlined rear cover statement of both volumes translates to: Furthermore, all books required for the use of the police schools in all areas of knowledge on the most favorable conditions are to be obtained from the assortment of the next edition. Mge auch die zweite Uuslage jedem Polizeibeamten weiterhin ein gutter Fhrer auf dem schwierigen Gebiete des polizeilichen Missens sein. No tool pouch. Der Mangel an einschlgigen Fachbchern ift oft betlagt worden. Polizei-Praesident Berlin=The Royal Police-President Berlin. the police cleaning rod was used in conjunction with a Mndungsschoner or muzzle protector attached to the P.08 sight band/block, many collectors and dealers are not The bases for these identifications are as follows: a. the Treaty of Versailles on German soil. Decoding these proof marks is very useful in determining the age and history of the gun. The subject WaAJL16 stamped Police style holster is the first one of two noted examples with the second WaAJL16 stamped holster being a P.08 Army style holster which has generated much collector speculation and opining. Pictured is a brown leather 1929 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with a Weimar era Sunburst K police inspection stamp and marked L.G. Muzzle protectors along with police Lugers have been identified with police markings Xd out. NowThis holster displays three distinct branches of service either real or fake. Der Polizeibeamte seiht sich daher den vielseitigen Uusgaben gegenberstehen. 02-04-2013 08:55 PM by NoncomRetired. It is, therefore, not necessary in some cases, as the above 1915 P. Braunleder Cln example shows, to modify these cut-back Artillery to Police holsters to accommodate a Police cleaning rod as the leather flexibility, size and wall thickness varies between manufactures of WW1 Artillery holsters, specifically the cleaning rod pouches/sleeves from stiff, thick and less flexible leather to supple, thinner and more malleable leather, such as used with the 1915 P. Braunleder Cln example. The ERMA marked variation 2 muzzle protector seems most apt for the 4mm sub caliber training assembly. 1928 (Undated) "Riff" Berlin Mauser Rig (Police) SOLD. That will teach me not to depend on my memory! Im Strasrecht haben ebensalls injngster Zeit z. L. erhebliche Umwlzungen stattgesunden. Included with the lot is a black leather flap holster (converted from Artillery to Police configuration, renumbered to match pistol, extensive hand . The first pictured example of a multiple conversion of an artillery to police holster conversion was done to a 1918 dated Dingeldey & Werres-Berlin artillery holster. The added cover flap leather keeper strip is correctly attached with single line stitching. links[2]='http://www.johnsonreferencebooks.com'; N.b.5. Pictured is a brown leather 1929 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with a Weimar era Sunburst K police inspection stamp and marked L.H. The new Freistaat Preuen style eagle was adopted as the emblem of the Preuen Schutzpolizei, (Prussian Protection Police) and the Preuen Kommunalpolizei, (Prussian Local/Municipal Police) and was utilized on their belt buckles. They appear to fall into two categories: P08s that always were P08s and P08s that were formerly unmarked Landjgerei LP08s (many 1918 DWM LP08s) that were reworked by the PTV in 1929-30 and reissued as P08s to the Landjgerei and other police. ad[9]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/Cash3.jpg'; For more detailed information on the 1949 Police manual. Edward Tinker - Co-Author of Police Lugers & Simson Lugers - Veteran Bring Backs Vol 1-4. yes sir it the sear and magazine safety installed. A community dedicated to Lugers, Central Powers, Axis, Allied and related WW-I and WW-II pistols by their scholars, collectors, owners and enthusiasts. The ERMA variation 2 unit also uses a The lack of relevant textbooks has often been put to the test. 2866 is pictured in two views, one with the Xs removed and the other enhanced, both with the intent of identifying the markings. Upcoming Auctions Auctions Near Me How Auctions Work | Help . The magazine safety is intact, the grips screws haven't been tampered with and overall looks like a pretty decent pistol. Receiver proof, some reworked 1920 Police and Military Lugers 32. Die neue Polizii, welche grunstzlich fr den Uusendienst bestimmt und uniformiert ift, versieht nicht nur den allgemeinen Sicherheitsdienst, fondern hat auch fr die Frhaltung der Ordnung, Ruhe und Reinlichteit, fr die Bertehrsregelung, fr die uissere heilghaltung der Sonn= und Feiertage, das Gesangenentransportwesen und schlieslich fr die Beachtung der wirtschastsportwesen Grundstze Sorge zu tragen. The conclusion being is that the modification, if indeed done for the reason described, was an ill-conceived, poorly thought out exercise that didnt work out, and that the special Police cleaning rod with added brass stopper, as stated by some Luger authors, was never intended to be carried in a cut-back Artillery to Police holster, with the subject holster being the sole published example so modified. Terms and Conditions and Privacy Policy. Pictured is a 4mm; excellent bore, 5'' barrel insert for Luger pistols chambered in .30 Luger (7.65mm Parabellum) with loading tool; view 1, view 2, view 3. Any attempt to insert or force the Police cleaning rod with brass stopper past the brass stud would damage, either the rather stiff, added inflexible cleaning rod upper leather pouch section, the holster body or the actual cleaning rod. Thanks. similar restriction. This Police holster definitely was used in two different locations or districts as indicated by the S. Hn. It has the matching last two digits of the serial number in the various other parts. The instruction manual is pictured and other interesting details are described in. collar assembly to be aligned with forward main The initials MG represent machine gun and the number being (page 108) 10th Training Corps or (page 216) with the 10 denoting the team number. Over all good condition. 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